......anticul Platon in 'Despre Stat'

 

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Plato in his academy, drawing after a painting by Swedish painter Carl Johan Wahlbom·  2400 years ago
Democracy is based on the principle of the sovereignty of the people.
But to choose the best for governing the nation, the people must be adult and also must be well educated.
If this is not achieved, from a democracy can be an autocracy. People like to be praised.
Because of this, the demagogues, who are verbal nice, could govern, although they are not good. The people suppose, everyone who can collect votes could easily gouvern the state.
Democracy is a matter of education. If you reach with the uneducated masses democracy, it would be an oligarchy. If you continue, the demagogues would appear. 
And from the demagogues would arise dictators.


Plato / State
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Plato's philosophical views had many societal implications, especially on the idea of an ideal state or government. 
There is some discrepancy between his early and later views. 
Some of the most famous doctrines are contained in the Republic during his middle period, as well as in the Laws and the Statesman. However, because Plato wrote dialogues, it is assumed that Socrates is often speaking for Plato. This assumption may not be true in all cases.
Plato, through the words of Socrates, asserts that societies have a tripartite class structure corresponding to the appetite/spirit/reason structure of the individual soul. 
The appetite/spirit/reason stand for different parts of the body. The body parts symbolize the castes of society.
Productive, which represents the abdomen. (Workers) — the labourers, carpenters, plumbers, masons, merchants, farmers, ranchers, etc. 
These correspond to the "appetite" part of the soul.
Protective, which represents the chest. (Warriors or Guardians) — those who are adventurous, strong and brave; in the armed forces. These correspond to the "spirit" part of the soul.
Governing, which represents the head. (Rulers or Philosopher Kings) — those who are intelligent, rational, self-controlled, in love with wisdom, well suited to make decisions for the community. These correspond to the "reason" part of the soul and are very few.
According to this model, the principles of Athenian democracy (as it existed in his day) are rejected as only a few are fit to rule. Instead of rhetoric and persuasion, 
Plato says reason and wisdom should govern. 
As Plato puts it:
"Until philosophers rule as kings or those who are now called kings and leading men genuinely and adequately philosophise, that is, until political power and philosophy entirely coincide, while the many natures who at present pursue either one exclusively are forcibly prevented from doing so, cities will have no rest from evils,... nor, I think, will the human race." 

Plato describes these "philosopher kings" as "those who love the sight of truth" and supports the idea with the analogy of a captain and his ship or a doctor and his medicine. 
According to him, sailing and health are not things that everyone is qualified to practice by nature. 
A large part of the Republic then addresses how the educational system should be set up to produce these philosopher kings.
However, it must be taken into account that the ideal city outlined in the Republic is qualified by Socrates as the ideal luxurious city, examined to determine how it is that injustice and justice grow in a city. 
According to Socrates, the "true" and "healthy" city is instead the one first outlined in book II of the Republic, containing farmers, craftsmen, merchants, and wage-earners, but lacking the guardian class of philosopher-kings as well as delicacies such as "perfumed oils, incense, prostitutes, and pastries", in addition to paintings, gold, ivory, couches, a multitude of occupations such as poets and hunters, and war.
In addition, the ideal city is used as an image to illuminate the state of one's soul, or the will, reason, and desires combined in the human body. 
Socrates is attempting to make an image of a rightly ordered human, and then later goes on to describe the different kinds of humans that can be observed, from tyrants to lovers of money in various kinds of cities. 
The ideal city is not promoted, but only used to magnify the different kinds of individual humans and the state of their soul. However, the philosopher king image was used by many after Plato to justify their personal political beliefs. 
The philosophic soul according to Socrates has reason, will, and desires united in virtuous harmony. 
A philosopher has the moderate love for wisdom and the courage to act according to wisdom. 
Wisdom is knowledge about the Good or the right relations between all that exists.
Wherein it concerns states and rulers, Plato has made interesting arguments. 
For instance he asks which is better—a bad democracy or a country reigned by a tyrant. 
He argues that it is better to be ruled by a bad tyrant, than be a bad democracy (since here all the people are now responsible for such actions, rather than one individual committing many bad deeds.) 
This is emphasised within the Republic as Plato describes the event of mutiny on board a ship. 
Plato suggests the ships crew to be in line with the democratic rule of many and the captain, although inhibited through ailments, the tyrant. 
Plato's description of this event is parallel to that of democracy within the state and the inherent problems that arise.
According to Plato, a state made up of different kinds of souls will, overall, decline from an aristocracy (rule by the best) to a timocracy (rule by the honorable), then to an oligarchy (rule by the few), then to a democracy (rule by the people), and finally to tyranny (rule by one person, rule by a tyrant).
 Aristocracy is the form of government (politeia) advocated in Plato's Republic. 
This regime is ruled by a philosopher king, and thus is grounded on wisdom and reason. 
The aristocratic state, and the man whose nature corresponds to it, are the objects of Plato's analyses throughout much of the Republic, as opposed to the other four types of states/men, who are discussed later in his work. 
In Book VIII, Plato states in order the other four imperfect societies with a description of the state's structure and individual character. 
In timocracy the ruling class is made up primarily of those with a warrior-like character. In his description,
 Plato has Sparta in mind. Oligarchy is made up of a society in which wealth is the criterion of merit and the wealthy are in control. 
In democracy, the state bears resemblance to ancient Athens with traits such as equality of political opportunity and freedom for the individual to do as he likes.
 Democracy then degenerates into tyranny from the conflict of rich and poor. 
It is characterized by an undisciplined society existing in chaos, where the tyrant rises as popular champion leading to the formation of his private army and the growth of oppression.